Re: STCW10 (Manila Convention) comes into force Jan 1 2017
Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 5:05 pm
Not if you did a 3/4 year cadet program that started after 2008?
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JollyJack wrote:Word from Ottawa is that 2nd Class is considered "Management level" for the purposes of STCW Certification, so yes, we did waste time effort and money doing 1st Class.
D Winsor wrote:JollyJack wrote:Word from Ottawa is that 2nd Class is considered "Management level" for the purposes of STCW Certification, so yes, we did waste time effort and money doing 1st Class.
You're probably right but even still I think,(and I've been known to be wrong in my interpretation or misinterpretation of regs) the new equivalent of a 1st class certificate will still be required on vessels over certain Propulsion KW rating threshold. 7000Kw for the Great Lakes or 3500Kw for International and Solas Coastal class vessels under the existing rules and I believe may be even lower under the new rules.
So unless companies suddenly apply to have the Propulsion Kw rating of their ships de-rated below the new threshold there will still be a requirement for 1st. Class Certificates but who will be left to fill the positions.
My biggest concern is with the dwindleing number of Canadian 1st class certificates, and an over abundance of equivalent certificates world wide. Combine this with an increasing level of difficulty to obtain the proper certified training courses required to obtain in general a certificate of any rating, here in Canada, that works against someone wanting to upgrade a certificate. Especially for those who didn't go through any sort of Cadet Program or chose to delay upgrading their certificates. Creating a perfect recipe for Shipping Companies to apply to the government to allow Foreign STCW 2010 Certified Crews to fill vacant positions.
Sea Rover wrote:Any Kid who started a Cadet Program in 2009, and graduated in 2013 (for example) and has 36 months of sea time as 4th, 3rd and or 2nd (you don't have to go through the ranks any more) is entitled to the highest license there is. They don't even have to do any TC exams other than 4th's (if they still do 4th's exams)