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CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:42 pm
by xheadsailor
I got my First Class CoC renewed last year and was issued a CoC as per STCW 1978 "as amended" (a laminated sheet with a stamp/seal); this is even though I completed the MED refreshers and MAFA. Is this CoC as per the STCW 2010 Manila Convention? Transport Canada is not able to give me a satisfactory response.

Has anyone got a CoC compliant with the STCW 2010 regulations?

Thanks.

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:18 pm
by Revolver
You got it after you did your courses, and it says expires ~2021-ish? And says unlimited on there...
I think you should be in the clear.

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:36 pm
by JollyJack
"As amended" covers 2010 STCW amendments. If it says that, you can get a real job, go foreign as Chief on a real ship!

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:25 am
by Revolver
JollyJack wrote:"As amended" covers 2010 STCW amendments. If it says that, you can get a real job, go foreign as Chief on a real ship!


What makes foreign a real job?
Haha I get your tone, but I'm curious what would make that more appealing?

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:31 am
by JK
JJ thinks coastal jobs don't make a real mariner. LOL
I liked my little coastal jobs.

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:08 am
by JollyJack
Never liked mud puddles and inshore stuff. I get agitated when land appears on the radar at extreme range, getting too close for comfort!

She's a deep water ship with a deep water crew
A deep water ship with a deep water crew
We can hug the shore but damned if we do
Aboard the Roseabella!

(trad capstan shanty)

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:11 pm
by JollyJack
Effective today, Ship Safety Bulletin 05/2017, which covers STCW Certification, has been withdrawn and is no longer in effect. Back to MPRs, to get a Chief Engineer Certificate, you'll have to get a First Class.

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:11 pm
by Revolver
Ha right on, there ya go all worries solved.


You gotta give us more insider info than that, though!

Did they realize what a farce it was?
What about people who have applied and received their new tickets, are they still valid - even though they came from a cracker Jack box?
What about people who haven't received their ticket? Will they get them?

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:17 pm
by wes
That is good news indeed! Now all the doomsayers can stop, right? Those of us still working towards higher class certificates don't have to be constantly told how worthless our goals/aspirations are? Fantastic!! Looking forward to the new SSB whenever it arrives. Will keep sailing in the mean time...

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:09 am
by The Dieselduck
This is ridiculous, WTF is going on at TC. People's livelihoods are at stake. Just got call from the Victoria Office confirming Ship Safety Bulletin has been suspended, nothing is going on with anything.

Very frustrating. Maybe they should delegate certification too, as the bureaucracy has crumble under its own weight, and seems incapable of perfroming the most basic functions.

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:21 pm
by JollyJack
Hey! I only work here! It seems that CoCs issued under this Ship Safety Bulletin are not valid. STCW 2010, Manilla, does not have examinations, instead, recognised educational institutions confirm competencies........so if you have $500 and an airline ticket to the far east.....

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:07 pm
by mengineer85
So what does that mean for people who are using this COC they obtained through this amendment for employment. Say for example somebody who has a chief engineer STCW and received employment with this certificate. Transport Canada can't expect them to just quit or be let go, there has to be some sort of transition phase again where those certificates are still valid so the seafarer has a chance to complete whatever it is they need to keep that position onboard.

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:57 pm
by Aavenger
SSB-05-2017E got cancelled what does it all mean!!!!!

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:54 pm
by Revolver
It means do the exams and actually earn the ticket, or fly somewhere and fullfil the Manilla regs?
And that we're still at...a kind of standstill - as per TC normal operating procedure lol

And as for mengineer85 - i guess they better get cracking on passing their exams.
If they got their Chief ticket for free, via SSB05/2017, and they don't have any of their chief exams from old MPRs complete - it's likely they weren't going to do the work then and earn their ticket any time soon anyway. So are they really driven to move up? Or just saw a free ticket the easy way?
Then there is the people who have been striving to move up - if they're serious they should have a decent number of requirements/exams completed and it's been a few months of a hiccup and then back at it and you'll earn it soon enough like you would have regularly.

It's not like the exams are even THAT hard really... Just know your shit lol

Re: CoC as per STCW 2010 Manila Convention

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:07 pm
by JollyJack
It means, as far as I can make out, that all tickets issued under the SSB and all applied for, have been suspended.