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Jon
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Engine Room Rating

Postby Jon » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:40 am

I've been engineering in Australia for several years.
I moved to Canada and have been given an Engine Room Rating From Transport Canada.
I need to get 9 months of sea time before I can take my 4th class exams.
Does anyone know a good place to look for work.
What kind of wages should I be expecting?

I also wanted to add this is a great website. Thanks to everyone responsible.
I could have used a site like this down under.

Thanks.

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Re: Engine Room Rating

Postby Steveoreano » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:37 pm

Do you need actual sea days or will anything else qualify you for sea service.
Where do you live in Canada. East or West
12 hour days give you 1.5 days of qualifying time per day if you find a job working 12 hours per day.

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Re: Engine Room Rating

Postby Jon » Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:22 pm

I need actual sea time
But a percentage can be refit.

I'm living out east and want to get into swing work.
1-2 months on and x amount off.

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Re: Engine Room Rating

Postby stokes82 » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:23 pm

Jon,

Try the Great Circle Marine website, they advertise for ERAs sometimes. I know a lot of people don't like the SIU but i heard last year there were a lot of call outs and the hall was almost empty in the summer. They could be worth a shot.

Best of luck on the job search.

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Re: Engine Room Rating

Postby Jon » Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:41 am

I really appreciate the help.
I had heard about the SIU. I'll give it a try.
Thanks for all your help guys.

And once again thanks to all the blokes who run this site.

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Re: Engine Room Rating

Postby aron » Mon May 27, 2013 4:57 am

Hi Jon,
I was just seeing how everything has worked out for you?
I am in the same situation as you, recently moved over from Australia and have had all my qualifications transferred across with Transport Canada, went from a Third Engineer to an Engine Room Rating with 288 sea days.
Just wanted to see how it has worked out for you and if you have any advise or suggestions for me.
Thanks for your time,
Aron

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Re: Engine Room Rating

Postby Jon » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:05 pm

Hi Aron, everything worked out for me in the end. I've got my 4th class license and have now started studying for my 2nd class. It was a solid up hill battle but the rewards have been well worth it. I've been in full time employment for 3 years now. I'll email you with a few suggestions and will try to give you a better idea of what I went though. All I can say is you have to keep your chin up and make full use of the resources available to you. TC has been a big help for me as well as this website.
Good luck.

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Re: Engine Room Rating

Postby JollyJack » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:43 pm

You need 6 months actual sea service as engine room crew, the other 30 months can be made up of any of the items listed in the table of section 147 of the Marine Personnel Regulations. http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regu ... .html#h-42

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Either having successfully completed a 3-year approved cadet training program in marine engineering or having acquired at least 36 months of qualifying service comprising the following:
(a) at least 6 months as an engineer, engine-room rating or assistant engineer, performing the duties set out in subsection (2) in an engine room on one or more of the following vessels the main engines of which have a total power of at least 500 kW:
(i) a motor vessel, in the case of an applicant for a motor ship certificate, or
(ii) a steamship, in the case of an applicant for a steamship certificate;
(b) a credit of 6 months of qualifying service if the applicant submits the certificate referred to in subparagraph 3(f)(i); and
(c) any remaining time in any combination of the following types of service:
(i) up to 12 months of fitting, erecting or repairing machinery,
(ii) up to 6 months of metal turning,
(iii) up to 6 months of brass finishing,
(iv) up to 6 months of planing, slotting, shaping and milling,
(v) up to 3 months of welding,
(vi) up to 6 months in a drafting office as mechanical or electrical drafter engaged in arrangement, detail or design drawings,
(vii) up to 24 months as an engineer or assistant engineer on day work,
(viii) up to 6 months as an engineer, engine-room rating, assistant engineer or electrician during the fitting out, laying up or refitting of one or more vessels,
(ix) up to 24 months as the person responsible for operating pumps on one or more tankers,
(x) up to 24 months as an engine-room rating or assistant engineer performing watchkeeping duties in an engine room on board one or more towed barges or similar vessels, the boiler or boilers of which have a total heating surface of at least 92.9 m2,
(xi) up to 9 months as person responsible for operating tunnel machinery on one or more self-unloading bulk cargo ships,
(xii) up to 24 months as an electrician on one or more vessels that have a rated generator capacity of at least 300 kW,
(xiii) a credit of 12 months of service for successful completion of an approved training program in diesel engines,
(xiv) a credit of up to 3 months of service for each of the following courses that has been successfully completed, at an institution recognized by a provincial government or foreign administration:
(A) applied mechanics,
(B) thermodynamics,
(C) machine design,
(D) electrotechnology, and
(E) naval architecture, and
(xv) a credit of 12 months of service for successful completion, at an institution recognized by a provincial government or foreign administration, of a training program in mechanical or electrical engineering.

So, 12 months in a training programme in mechanical or electrical engineering, 12 months fitting, repairing or erecting machinery and 2 more months doing something in that table and you're off to the races. You need basic skills training for 4th Class STCW III/1 anyway, that's your training programme. Chances are you've done trade training in Oz which could be acceptable if it was a mechanical or electrical trade. Chances are you've worked on mechanical or electrical machinery, too. All you need is a testimonial saying so.
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