I'm not making any judgemental calls Brian, merely posting the Regulations. If you're "wearing the Flag", (and patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, according to Ben Franklin) you might like to know that I, too, have proudly worn the uniform of HM and continued in uniform in the Merchant service for many years. As I said, I don't decide policy, I don't spin info and I don't pontificate. In this forum, I merely post the regulations, or links to them and to TPs relevant to the subject matter. Some people might appreciate that, but if you think the Regulations must be changed, vote NDP next election.
Naval equivilancies for engineers are covered in TP2293, section 2.8, tables VI and VII, which you can peruse here:http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafety/tp ... 2-77.htm#8
The requirements for SVMO are specified in the Marine Personnel Regulations, section 151, the complete text of which is this:
Small Vessel Machinery Operator
151. (1) An applicant for a Small Vessel Machinery Operator certificate shall meet the requirements set out in column 1 of the table to this subsection and the corresponding specifications set out in column 2.
Column 1 Column 2
Item Requirements Specifications
1. Experience Acquire at least two months of qualifying service as follows:
(a) at least 1 month of sea service as an engineer or a rating performing engine-room duties on one or more motor vessels; and
(b) any remaining time any combination of the types of service set out in item 2 of the table to subsection 147(1).
2. Certificates to be provided to the examiner
(a) MED with respect to small passenger vessel safety; and
(b) marine basic first aid.
3. Pass examinations
(a) Written examination on general engineering knowledge of small vessels, after meeting the requirements of items 1 and 2; and
(b) after passing the examination referred to in paragraph (a),
(i) oral examination on general engineering knowledge of small vessels if applying for an unrestricted certificate, and
(ii) practical examination on board the vessel in respect of which the certificate is sought if applying for the restricted certificate referred to in subsection (2).
(2) Despite item 1 of the table to subsection (1), an applicant for a Small Vessel Machinery Operator certificate restricted for use on board a specified passenger-carrying vessel that has a propulsive power of less than 750 kW and is engaged on a limited near coastal voyage, Class 2 or a sheltered waters voyage may, instead of meeting the requirements of that item,
(a) successfully complete training related to the propulsion system and safety systems fitted on the vessel; or
(b) acquire at least 10 days of sea service performing engine-room duties on the vessel or a vessel of the same class.
Note that the Restricted SVMO includes a practical examination aboard the vessel in addition to the General and Oral Examinations, as specified in table item 3 (b)(ii), which requires a written exam AND an oral exam AND a practical Exam for the Restricted SVMO. Subsection 2 deals with qualifying service, ("despite item 1 etc) it has nothing to do with Examinations.
The MPRs are here: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/SOR-2007- ... 1-gb:s_144
Incidentally, Naval sea service is acceptable and certified sea days are counted at time and a half, in accordance with TP2293 section 3.7. A summary of Sea Days can be obtained from D.Mar.Pers. at DND HQ on Colonel By drive in Ottawa, phone 613 996 6868. The appropriate form (request for a Summary of Sea Days) can be obtained from there. (better have your MPRR handy when you call!) Naval sea days are counted only when the screw turns for 24 hours, midnight to midnight. If the vessel stops for any reason, that day is not counted. STCW days, on the other hand, are counted from sign on day to sign off day. (TP2293, section 3.3 (1)) The accurate calculation is Julian date of sign-off minus the Julian date of sign-on. 12 hour days are counted at x 1.5 with the production of Testmonials indicating 12 hours a day on watch. TP2293 (3.3)(6)
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