STCW - da bomb is back!

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STCW - da bomb is back!

Postby The Dieselduck » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:15 am

The next Canadian Marine Advisory Committee (CMAC) meeting is a little more than a month away - to be held in Ottawa, on November 6th through the 8th. Transport Canada, which regulates pretty much everything we do in Canadian shipping, and especially us seafarers, uses this medium to discuss changes in their policies and regulations.

They have proposed a long list of amendments to the Marine Personnel Regulations, those are the regulations that oversee the Training and Certification of Canadian seafarer. The amendments are there to address the recently adopted changes to the Standards of Training Watchkeeping and Certification (STCW) of seafarer, as adopted by the recent IMO convention, held in Manila, June 2010. These are major changes to the STCW convention, and they are known as the Manila Convention or STCW10.

Transport Canada is obligated to introduce these agreed international changes into its regulatory framework. Many of the changes directly impact seafarers, right now, such as hours of rest / work; and these regulations are already in force, beginning 2012. There is further regulations which will impact Marine Engineer in particular, you can read about the proposed changes to the Canadian engineering certification system here.

The biggest one for currently certificated engineers is the Safety Training, previously known as Marine Emergency Duties (MED) now has a validity limit. Meaning that the training, if not up to current standards will have to taken again. Refresher courses will have to be introduced at the maritime schools, to be taken every five years, and there is also some additional training introduced.

TC is introducing new Certificates of Competency (CoC) for deck and engineers; in particular...

Fourth-class Engineer, Motor Vessel, Domestic
Fourth-class Engineer, Steam Vessel, Domestic
Electro-technical officer
Small Vessel Machinery Operator, , Steam Vessel
Able Seafarer engine
Electro-technical rating

...and new Certificate of Proficiency (training)

Basic Training for oil and chemical tanker cargo operations
Basic training for liquefied gas tanker cargo operations
Advanced training for oil tanker cargo operation
Advanced training for chemical tanker cargo operation
Advanced training for liquefied gas tanker cargo operation
STCW basic safety
Fast Rescue Boats
Survival Craft and Rescue Boats Other Than Fast Rescue Boats
Advanced fire fighting
Marine basic first aid
Marine advanced first aid
Medical Care

... and new Endorsements

Chief Engineer, Motor Vessel up to 2,000 kW, Domestic Endorsement
Chief Engineer, Steam Vessel up to 2,000 kW, Domestic Endorsement
Continuous proficiency in marine emergency duties
Endorsement attesting the recognition of a certificate
Air Cushion Vehicle (ACV) Engineer, Class I;
Air Cushion Vehicle (ACV) Engineer, Class II;
High-Speed Craft (HSC) Type Rating;
Air Cushion Vehicle (ACV) Type Rating;

Got a headache yet....?

By the looks of it, Fourth Class will now require the full Part A exams, including new ones like "Industrial Chemistry" and "Electrical, electronic and control engineering". Oh that's wonderful! I wonder where TC is going to get those exam questions out of the 1960's Reed's books. Third class will be required to do Simulator level 2 as well, typically this wasn't required until Second Class.

As I see it current Cadets should be relatively ok. Senior ranks - Second or First Class CoC holder will be hit with refresher courses, and additional requirements for maintaining their Certificate. As I see it, the real problem will be for the "keeners" who have experience on board, typically older, and are trying to work their way up in the field, upgrading to a Fourth Class or Thirds. These guys, I think are really screwed, as there is no practical way they can move up now.

Of course, this group of ship's engineering staff have very few people talking on their behalf. The senior ranks, well, they have adjustments to make but overall not too bad, the unions may speak on their behalf. No matter how you slice it, these are extra burdens to achieve certification in an already dire process.

TC reached out to the CIMarE, this is where I first heard of it, yesterday, even though these changes were proposed last CMAC in April. I run probably the largest web community of those affected; TC, email is relatively free - wouldn't hurt to let us engineers know. Ultimately, CIMarE is a volunteer organization, so their input is great, but at the mercy of many pressing issues affecting its membership, like putting food on the table. Unions, well, if history is any indication, I think will be absent from any meaningful input on this subject. Sorry young guys and gals wanting to be ship's engineers, your on your own.

The first time STCW was introduced, back in the late 1990's, I think it safe to say it was chaotic. In the US, it was downright scary. I don't think it will be as bad, now that we are use to the STCW concept, but I predict a major slowdown in the Certificate queu at your local TC Marine Safety office, already running at high output and quality assurance levels - sorry a bit of sarcasm there.

If you are in Ottawa in November you are invited to attend. You can see all the proposed changes here ( ... sonnel.htm), here are the really interesting ones, the changes to the Engineering certificates ( ... sonnel.htm). CMAC's website is here ( ... nu-826.htm).

Deckies, don't worry, you were not forgotten, you'll definitely want to look up how these changes apply to you; and fisherman, you were not forgotten as well....
Yup, its that big
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Re: STCW - da bomb is back!

Postby sailor » Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:16 am

Da bomb is in Canada now,because all this is all ready done in Europe-ask all engineers and mates wich come from est Europe
You have to be afraid about the costs of this training programs,they are very expensive
So, good luck

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