It would seem Carnival Cruises as well as not being able to steam their ships about the world cannot secure them in port either. You would have thought extra mooring ropes, springs and hawsers would have been the order of the day on a powerless ship.
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Amazing article.
I was talking a couple of weeks ago to one of our Captains. His ship was tied up powerless, over the winter with the propulsion control being upgraded. He had a stern anchor out, an anchor run ashore at the bow and the second bow anchor out, plus mooring chain ashore, specifically to deal with winds and storm surge.
Maybe Carnival sent the Mates home too quick after tying up and without any extra thought on the matter.
On another related topic, I came across a picture of the Costa Allegra on the beach in Turkey being cut up. After her cruise problems, she was decommisioned and sold.
I was talking a couple of weeks ago to one of our Captains. His ship was tied up powerless, over the winter with the propulsion control being upgraded. He had a stern anchor out, an anchor run ashore at the bow and the second bow anchor out, plus mooring chain ashore, specifically to deal with winds and storm surge.
Maybe Carnival sent the Mates home too quick after tying up and without any extra thought on the matter.
On another related topic, I came across a picture of the Costa Allegra on the beach in Turkey being cut up. After her cruise problems, she was decommisioned and sold.
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The Onion has another list of Carnival disasters... you can find it here http://www.theonion.com/articles/major- ... ers,31982/
Major Carnival Cruise Line Disasters
Infographic • travel • Lifestyle • ISSUE 49•15 • Apr 8, 2013
The Carnival cruise ship Triumph, which lost electricity and functioning bathrooms while at sea in February, broke free from its mooring in Mobile, AL last week, marking the latest in a string of high-profile black eyes for the company. Here are some other famous disasters in Carnival’s history:
May 24, 1975: Malfunctioning kitchen equipment forces Carnival Festivale passengers to go five minutes without eating
July 2, 1981: The Carnival Mardi Gras catches fire after a crewman accidently discards his cigarette in the Bales of Hay Room
Aug. 19, 1988: Passengers Denise Redmond and Carl Piper meet and hit if off
Sept. 5, 1997: The Carnival Jubilee is downed in the mid-Atlantic by a broadside cannon barrage from a Regent Seven Seas Cruises destroyer
Oct. 10, 2000: Elation becomes the third Carnival cruise ship to be destroyed by a falling meteor
June 12, 2004: The Carnival Glory capsizes and sinks after everyone rushes port side to see a dolphin hopping in and out of the water
Aug. 10, 2009: The Carnival Legend notices too late that it’s about to go over a really big waterfall!
Apr. 18, 2013: Emerging from port for the first time since its docking, the entire Carnival cruise ship Triumph spontaneously bursts into flames
June 28, 2091: The navigational system aboard the Carnival StarVoyage malfunctions, sending the space cruiser directly into the sun
Major Carnival Cruise Line Disasters
Infographic • travel • Lifestyle • ISSUE 49•15 • Apr 8, 2013
The Carnival cruise ship Triumph, which lost electricity and functioning bathrooms while at sea in February, broke free from its mooring in Mobile, AL last week, marking the latest in a string of high-profile black eyes for the company. Here are some other famous disasters in Carnival’s history:
May 24, 1975: Malfunctioning kitchen equipment forces Carnival Festivale passengers to go five minutes without eating
July 2, 1981: The Carnival Mardi Gras catches fire after a crewman accidently discards his cigarette in the Bales of Hay Room
Aug. 19, 1988: Passengers Denise Redmond and Carl Piper meet and hit if off
Sept. 5, 1997: The Carnival Jubilee is downed in the mid-Atlantic by a broadside cannon barrage from a Regent Seven Seas Cruises destroyer
Oct. 10, 2000: Elation becomes the third Carnival cruise ship to be destroyed by a falling meteor
June 12, 2004: The Carnival Glory capsizes and sinks after everyone rushes port side to see a dolphin hopping in and out of the water
Aug. 10, 2009: The Carnival Legend notices too late that it’s about to go over a really big waterfall!
Apr. 18, 2013: Emerging from port for the first time since its docking, the entire Carnival cruise ship Triumph spontaneously bursts into flames
June 28, 2091: The navigational system aboard the Carnival StarVoyage malfunctions, sending the space cruiser directly into the sun
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Carnival’s rescue refund offer
Sen. Rockefeller responds cautiously to Carnival’s rescue refund offer
by Dennis Schaal, Skift http://skift.com/2013/04/15/sen-rockefe ... und-offer/
Apr 15, 2013 3:24 pm
U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller, who previously charged that Carnival Corp. was “bloodsucking off the American people,” isn’t totally satisfied with Carnival Corp.’s pledge today to reimburse the federal government’s costs associated with its rescues of the Carnival Splendor and Carnival Triumph in 2010 and 2013, respectively.
Rockefeller, who indicated several weeks ago that there have been 90 serious safety incidents involving Carnival ships alone over the last five years, wants to hold the entire cruise industry accountable.
“I’m glad to see that Carnival owned up to the bare minimum of corporate responsibility by reimbursing federal taxpayers for these two incidents,” Rockefeller tells Skift. “I am still committed to making sure the cruise industry as a whole pays its fair share in taxes, complies with strict safety standards, and holds the safety of its passengers above profits.”
Rockefeller’s statement follows a Carnival announcement today that it was reversing course from its previous position in which it indicated that it would rely on maritime tradition where rescuing ships at sea is everyone’s responsibility.
Carnival didn’t state it specifically at the time, but it was clear that it had no intention of reimbursing the federal government for the Carnival Triumph and Carnival Splendor incidents — or any other governments for the 88 other incidents detailed by Rockefeller.
In the about-face, Carnival stated today:
“Carnival Corporation is in the process of voluntarily submitting payment to the U.S. Treasury Department to reimburse the federal government for costs related to the Carnival Triumph and Splendor incidents. It should be clearly noted that at no point in time has Carnival stated it would refuse to reimburse federal agencies if they sought remuneration. Although no agencies have requested remuneration, the company has made the decision to voluntarily provide reimbursement to the federal government.”
Asked how much Carnival will be reimbursing the federal government, spokesperson Vance Gulliksen tells Skift: “We’re trying to track down the dollar amount and will let you know.”
by Dennis Schaal, Skift http://skift.com/2013/04/15/sen-rockefe ... und-offer/
Apr 15, 2013 3:24 pm
U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller, who previously charged that Carnival Corp. was “bloodsucking off the American people,” isn’t totally satisfied with Carnival Corp.’s pledge today to reimburse the federal government’s costs associated with its rescues of the Carnival Splendor and Carnival Triumph in 2010 and 2013, respectively.
Rockefeller, who indicated several weeks ago that there have been 90 serious safety incidents involving Carnival ships alone over the last five years, wants to hold the entire cruise industry accountable.
“I’m glad to see that Carnival owned up to the bare minimum of corporate responsibility by reimbursing federal taxpayers for these two incidents,” Rockefeller tells Skift. “I am still committed to making sure the cruise industry as a whole pays its fair share in taxes, complies with strict safety standards, and holds the safety of its passengers above profits.”
Rockefeller’s statement follows a Carnival announcement today that it was reversing course from its previous position in which it indicated that it would rely on maritime tradition where rescuing ships at sea is everyone’s responsibility.
Carnival didn’t state it specifically at the time, but it was clear that it had no intention of reimbursing the federal government for the Carnival Triumph and Carnival Splendor incidents — or any other governments for the 88 other incidents detailed by Rockefeller.
In the about-face, Carnival stated today:
“Carnival Corporation is in the process of voluntarily submitting payment to the U.S. Treasury Department to reimburse the federal government for costs related to the Carnival Triumph and Splendor incidents. It should be clearly noted that at no point in time has Carnival stated it would refuse to reimburse federal agencies if they sought remuneration. Although no agencies have requested remuneration, the company has made the decision to voluntarily provide reimbursement to the federal government.”
Asked how much Carnival will be reimbursing the federal government, spokesperson Vance Gulliksen tells Skift: “We’re trying to track down the dollar amount and will let you know.”
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In the spat between Senator Rockafeller and Carnival Cruise line there is several interesting articles. http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2013/03/ar ... s-to-stop/ talks about the Senator, who highlights a list of reportable accidents and occurrences reported to the USCG, where Carnival as owner operator, dominates the list. It is attached below....
Carnival for its part release a letter which this article focuses on... "safety first"! Carnival says - "...wait for the official report on the Triumph from the Bahamas authority" (its flag) they say, before jumping to conclusions. Yeah, like were still waiting for the report on the other major cruise ship fire, less than two years before Triumph, the Carnival Splendor. I think I wont hold my breath for either accident reports to be extensive, or even released for that matter. Read the article here http://www.usatoday.com/story/cruiselog ... r/2049233/
Carnival for its part release a letter which this article focuses on... "safety first"! Carnival says - "...wait for the official report on the Triumph from the Bahamas authority" (its flag) they say, before jumping to conclusions. Yeah, like were still waiting for the report on the other major cruise ship fire, less than two years before Triumph, the Carnival Splendor. I think I wont hold my breath for either accident reports to be extensive, or even released for that matter. Read the article here http://www.usatoday.com/story/cruiselog ... r/2049233/
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Interesting article from gCaptain in response to the comments from Senator Rockafeller.
http://gcaptain.com/cost-rescue/
Not sure I completely agree with the view point, I think the Coastguard have saved Carnival a lot of money, relating to salvage costs and probably reduced the size of the lawsuits issued.
A donation to the USCG or some other related charities should be considered by Carnival.
Companies should be more aware of their impact (to the budgets of rescue services), than Joe bloggs who just makes a stupid mistake, and the cost of rescuing a Carnival cruise ship is a big dent in the budget used to keep the general public safe.
http://gcaptain.com/cost-rescue/
Not sure I completely agree with the view point, I think the Coastguard have saved Carnival a lot of money, relating to salvage costs and probably reduced the size of the lawsuits issued.
A donation to the USCG or some other related charities should be considered by Carnival.
Companies should be more aware of their impact (to the budgets of rescue services), than Joe bloggs who just makes a stupid mistake, and the cost of rescuing a Carnival cruise ship is a big dent in the budget used to keep the general public safe.