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Senior Marine Inspector

Organization Name: Department of Transport - Marine Safety and Security
Locations: Various Locations - View locations list
Classification: TI - 07
Salary: $73,278 to $83,491 (Plus an additional terminable allowance of 609.83$ monthly (Marine))
Closing Date: September 3, 2013 - 23:59, Pacific Time Useful Information
Reference Number: MOT13J-009289-000048
Selection Process Number: 13-MOT-EA-DOR-78403
Vacancies: 1 - Additionally, a pool of qualified candidates will be created to fill similar positions.
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Web site: For further information https://psjobs-emploisfp.psc-cfp.gc.ca/ ... ter=215553
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Ooohh, all of the high spots, Rimouski, Gaspe, Îles-de-la-Madeleine. Sept Isle-probably the ore carriers.

They also fail to mention that the TC fellows have been without a contract for 2 years and that the TA is a major part of the brouhaha. Will it go up, will there be a strike? Also it is interesting that they have dropped their requirements to a 2nds. A senior inspector always used to have to have a 1st class. A sign that the pay is too low for the CEs to flood ashore.
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Yeah I did notice the 2nd class thing, but in bc we have third class tc guy, so not sure, must be the usual TC sliding rule thing.
What is "TA"?
Even at 2nd class, 90k a year wont really cut it.
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TA is Terminable Allowance. That's the $600 ontop of their salary. One of the stumbling blocks for the contract I am told.
About 13-15 years ago, it was realized that the pay Federal Public Servants "enjoy" was too low to entice the experienced engineers ashore, even with benefits, so the allowance was tacked on.
The problem is that the TA was justified as a "retention" issue. If you ever noticed the average mature age of inspectors, because that is where (hopefully)the knowledge and experience resides;once they come ashore, tickets are allowed to lapse so they are not going back to sea, so thereis no retention issue. It is more an attracting new blood as the older fellows retire, up to the 70s in some cases.
That is one of the reasons you see a 2nd class requirement, (what is surprising is that they aren't asking for a 2nds with seatime to 1sts, so that the person can actually acquire a 1st, or maybe they actually have a person in mind and this is written around their qualifications).
All federal department needing the experience and knowledge are having the same problem enticing engineers ashore because of the low salary. TB doesn't think there is an issue because the work gets done. The problem with the TA is it is not considered part of the salary, so it can be pulled or the inspector reclassified to another pay classification which does not include the TA. Pull $600 off the top of a fairly low pay in somewhere like BC and consider the implication. It has happened in othe rdepartmments.
The 3rd class guy is usually the small boat guy. Isn't that the majority of vessels out there? There is no sliding rule, it is government so the requirements are pretty set.

Now you have the railroad accident in Quebec, an industry regulated by TC, it will be interesting to see what, if any, implications there are to the Regulation industry in Canada (after the CFIA and tainted meat incident)

Feel free to correct me, this are only my impressions.
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I know the Vancouver office cannot attract applicants to fill vacant positions, nobody can afford the housing there.

Certificates of Competence don't have to elapse, if the TC Inspector invests $100 or so on a seafarer's medical. Qualifying service of 24 months on the job in a 5 year period is sufficient to renew the CoC. (MPR 107)

1st class is TI 07, which has the $600/month TA. The 2nd Class, TI 06, is $900 TA, because the union thinks that 2nd is higher than 1st, so demanded the higher TA. That's the kind of union to which we pay dues, for now, anyway. It will probably change in the not-too-distant future. The Employer has conceded that TI 07 (1st Class) is about 25 - 30% behind industry standards and has made an offer to make it up. The Union refused, they want everyone to have the TA, as I understand it. They have consistently refused demands for a vote on the TB offer.

You are right about small vessels, 95% of all vessels registered in Canada are under 150 GRT, 98% are under 400 GRT. There are 87 vessels registered in Canada which actually trade internationally (not including trade to USA or St Pierre/Miquelon, which is considered "home trade") and these are not even considered in any PSC lists. (Shipping in the puddles doesn't count, they are in a whole different category, the poster child for which is lying on Scaterie Island, off Cape Breton.) So we can say that Canada is not a "black list" flag. It's not "white list" or "grey list" either, there are just not enough ships to establish any kind of showing on a PSC MOU.

However, as far are Certificates of Competency are concerned, Canada is right up there with the top 4, UK, Australia, NZ and India. We 5 Flag States established the standards for STCW. Mind you, the standards have been changed a bit since '75 by IMO.
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JollyJack, I was told by a very reliable person that previous management in the local office discouraged certificates being renewed as it was too hard to fill the vacant position. Clever staffing policy.
Given the present race to delegation to Class, I am sure a lot of the Technical Surveyors must be moving to other positions as their work gets phased out.
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There are no vacant spots and retirees are not being replaced.
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